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	<title>Comments on: Savant &#8211; Simple PHP Templating Engine</title>
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		<title>By: AppBeacon</title>
		<link>http://thedailyapp.com/tools/misc/savant-simple-php-templating-engine/comment-page-1#comment-2287</link>
		<dc:creator>AppBeacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Templating is certainly not obsolete.  However, I don&#039;t see much advantage to this over Smarty.  I use Smarty for my site as well as my day time job.  It is great.  One of the greatest uses is to avoid escaping in and out of PHP all the time.  Savant doesn&#039;t seem to remove that problem.

For everyone suggesting that MVC frameworks make template engines obsolote:  I would hazard a guess there are undoubtedly more non-framework users than framework users.  For all of us doing PHP apps from scratch, templating is a lifesaver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Templating is certainly not obsolete.  However, I don&#8217;t see much advantage to this over Smarty.  I use Smarty for my site as well as my day time job.  It is great.  One of the greatest uses is to avoid escaping in and out of PHP all the time.  Savant doesn&#8217;t seem to remove that problem.</p>
<p>For everyone suggesting that MVC frameworks make template engines obsolote:  I would hazard a guess there are undoubtedly more non-framework users than framework users.  For all of us doing PHP apps from scratch, templating is a lifesaver.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t consider it obsolete.  While I don&#039;t have any good examples at the moment there may be times when I don&#039;t want to use a full blown framework, but a simple templating engine like Savant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t consider it obsolete.  While I don&#8217;t have any good examples at the moment there may be times when I don&#8217;t want to use a full blown framework, but a simple templating engine like Savant.</p>
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		<title>By: xrado</title>
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		<dc:creator>xrado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>are you sure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are you sure?</p>
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		<title>By: marcosdsanchez</title>
		<link>http://thedailyapp.com/tools/misc/savant-simple-php-templating-engine/comment-page-1#comment-2259</link>
		<dc:creator>marcosdsanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“variable ? &gt;” 

works if you have short tags enabled or not. (It was escaped the first time I posted it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“variable ? &gt;” </p>
<p>works if you have short tags enabled or not. (It was escaped the first time I posted it)</p>
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		<title>By: marcosdsanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcosdsanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>variable ?&gt;
works if you have short tags enabled or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>variable ?&gt;<br />
works if you have short tags enabled or not.</p>
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		<title>By: ng</title>
		<link>http://thedailyapp.com/tools/misc/savant-simple-php-templating-engine/comment-page-1#comment-2254</link>
		<dc:creator>ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short tags *will* be in PHP 6. Not ASP style tags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short tags *will* be in PHP 6. Not ASP style tags.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg-J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg-J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I simply don&#039;t see any situation when I would benefit from this convoluted template system. I&#039;d have to agree with david that this &quot;app&quot;(app? really?) is obsolete.

This is no attempt to self-promote, but a while back I released very simple and free - as in free bear - open source framework that is far more useful than this called Skeleton CMS (you can find it on opensourcecms.com or at greg-j.com) that I would encourage anyone to use over this.

&lt;strong&gt;@EllisGL,&lt;/strong&gt;
PHP 6 does not drop support for short tags. It does however drop support for ASP style tags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I simply don&#8217;t see any situation when I would benefit from this convoluted template system. I&#8217;d have to agree with david that this &#8220;app&#8221;(app? really?) is obsolete.</p>
<p>This is no attempt to self-promote, but a while back I released very simple and free &#8211; as in free bear &#8211; open source framework that is far more useful than this called Skeleton CMS (you can find it on opensourcecms.com or at greg-j.com) that I would encourage anyone to use over this.</p>
<p><strong>@EllisGL,</strong><br />
PHP 6 does not drop support for short tags. It does however drop support for ASP style tags.</p>
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		<title>By: EllisGL</title>
		<link>http://thedailyapp.com/tools/misc/savant-simple-php-templating-engine/comment-page-1#comment-2232</link>
		<dc:creator>EllisGL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short tags will not be in PHP 6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short tags will not be in PHP 6.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 18:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought savant got obsolete once the frameworks came into play. While savant has a controller - view separation, frameworks have MVC or  another pattern to separate code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought savant got obsolete once the frameworks came into play. While savant has a controller &#8211; view separation, frameworks have MVC or  another pattern to separate code.</p>
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